This could be YOU.

4 December, 2006 Ken Uncategorized

Am I the only one freaked out about this? Didn’t we revolt against England over things like this? What the hell has happened to Our America?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/04/us/04detain.html?ex=1165899600&en=d1a72bbb2b02b8bb&ei=5065&partner=MYWAY

5 Responses to “This could be YOU.”

  • kaith_rustaz says:

    Re: Dude …
    Detaining Americans without constitutional rights is happening, and is approved of by the current president. Several bills were signed into law recently that continue to accellerate the destruction of our constitution.
    “President Bush signed a law Tuesday (October) authorizing military trials of terrorism suspects.
    The legislation also eliminates some of the rights defendants are usually guaranteed under U.S. law, and it authorizes continued harsh interrogations of terror suspects.
    The Supreme Court ruled in June that trying detainees in military tribunals violated U.S. and international law, so Bush urged Congress to change the law”
    http://www.witchvox.com/wren/wn_detail.html?id=16369
    http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2578629
    Then there was this interesting piece of news:
    “Bush Signs Bill Enabling Martial Law
    Posted by kdawson on Saturday October 28, @04:42PM
    from the maybe-sweden dept.
    An anonymous reader writes to point us to an article on the meaning of a new law that President Bush signed on Oct. 17. It seems to allow the President to impose martial law on any state or territory, using federal troops and/or the state’s own, or other states’, National Guard troops. From the article: “In a stealth maneuver, President Bush has signed into law a provision which, according to Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont), will actually encourage the President to declare federal martial law. It does so by revising the Insurrection Act, a set of laws that limits the President’s ability to deploy troops within the United States. The Insurrection Act (10 U.S.C.331 -335) has historically, along with the Posse Comitatus Act (18 U.S.C.1385), helped to enforce strict prohibitions on military involvement in domestic law enforcement. With one cloaked swipe of his pen, Bush is seeking to undo those prohibitions.” Here is a link to the bill in question. The relevant part is Sec. 1076 about 3/4 of the way down the page.
    http://slashdot.org/
    http://politics.slashdot.org/politics/06/10/28/1934208.shtml
    http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40967
    Ironically, I mentioned this a while back.
    http://www.rustaz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12169
    You may want to check this out http://www.freedomtofascism.com
    The simple truth is, America is heading at warp speed towards becoming a fascist state, and the current administration has done a huge amount of damage to our basic foundations, under the guise of “safety” and “security”. The only way it will be stopped, is for the people to rise up, and demand accountability of those in power, and to remove them if they fail to give it. Bush, Cheney, and numerous others currently in office have condemned the Constitution for handcuffing them. Any elected official who has condemned the highest law of the land, should be removed, period.
    If we can fit the revolution in between commercial breaks, I’m with you….soon as I finish watching Matlock.

  • Anonymous says:

    Dude …
    You just pissed away a pint or two of credibility — bringing up an extremist perspective where untargeted civilian casualties are “slaughtered” by Republicans? That guy is a whack, with rhetoric you can cut through with a knife, line by line.
    An for the record, it’s not really righteous anger, if there is such a thing. It’s a very specific outcry, and I’m not getting a “Bush lied” bumper sticker over it. Even if Bush WAS the anti-christ, that doesn’t make the boatloads of conspiracy theories and poorly-reasoned criticisms of the left valid.
    Detaining Americans without constitutional rights, however, if it becomes common and is not rectified, is grounds for revolution.

  • kaith_rustaz says:

    I agree with you.
    But that agreement, and your rightious anger doesn’t count in the US today.
    We live ina country where people like Newt Gingrich claim that we need to stop Freedom of Speech to “protect us”, where the government has legalized the unconstitutional detainment and deportation of its citizens to nations where they will be tortured and then pardoned itself, and where the ‘daily life’ of Orwells 1984 is becoming closer to reality than fiction. Our current so called “leaders” are guilty of numerous crimes, war crimes, and possibly even treason because of their repeated violations of public trust and the Constitution, yet the masses bleet like sheeple and won’t rise up and do squat because they’re too busy watching “Reality TV”.
    Will we suffer the same fate? Possibly. Become a big enough pain and see who is next to be disappeared.
    I of course, eagerly await the trial of those guilty of masterminding the deaths of over 50,000 innocent civilians over the last few years.
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts180.html

  • Anonymous says:

    Specifically,
    I’m not talking about defining torture. That is an abuse, no doubt, but not the core of my fear.
    I mean detention without charges. That is the most basic protection which has been violated. All other laws and liberties follow in part or in whole from this one requirement — that no citizen shall be detained without trial, counsel, or reason.
    I don’t care if he killed Mother Theresa and personally planned 911. He needs to go free at all costs on principle alone, to ensure the rest of us may be protected from the potential tryanny of a government without restraint, accountability, or the ability of an individual’s legal recourse.
    We killed and died for this protection from government across the span of ten generations, and now we wait for the day when someone like me who speaks up will reasonably fear to suffer the same fate?

  • kaith_rustaz says:

    It was sold out from under us, but remember, all that is -not- torture, though it is perfectly legal, as repeatedly stated by Bush, Cheney, and several current high ranking military officials.


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